I am going to say this because I don't think you are one to get hurt easily by words from a stranger I am not trying lady wants flirt to hurt you. And most likely I am totally wrong anyways. I am also saying it because at this point I'm guessing only you and I are still reading this thread. Cornerhouse finally put a finger on why your discussions often unsettle me. I'm gonna pitch this even though it not go over well. And I'm going to make a wild, off the cuff assessment based only on my gut as it feels while in discussions with you. It's not meant to be hurtful but maybe this is why people sometimes react a certain way to your discussions or line of questioning As cornerhouse intoned, it feels as though your line of quetioning is less to understand a topic and more to lead the conclusion to your predetermined place. I think that's why I feel your line of questioning is rather aggresive. Answers that don't go the way you want are usually really pulled apart and squeezed, twisted and tortured into fitting into the direction you need for your answer to be right. To push myself into the deep end of the quack analyzing pool even further.. This is also why I think "intellectualization" when I read your arguements. Here's my theory: You seem more comfortable when you "know" something. Everyone is. But to really get to know something, you have to admit you don't know something first. That is not a place you are comfortable so you make a "pre-knowledge" decision or definition or understanding and then torture a discussion to make your "knowledge" correct. Especially because you most often *are* correct. This doesn't mean you won't eventually come to a different understanding of something. You can switch from one answer to another eventually but to have NO understanding is too scary. It takes a while to switch your understanding because to do so means admitting to yourself that your first understanding was wrong and that burns your britches. Probably because you don't like feeling unsettled or unsure of yourself. I am not saying I don't like you not that that matters I just like trying figure out people, how they function and why I have my specific internal reactions to you.